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        <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 15:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        <title>Tournament Organisation or not!</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1893/tournament-organisation-or-not</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 11:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Jeremy69</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a multitude of problems with, especially, Crockfords Cup entry and organisation not befitting England's premier KO. All of the examples that follow are in recent years, post covid.<br />
1. My team was seeded and then not seeded. The reason was a team entering in time but the entry had been misfiled and they , rightfully, were then seeded ahead of us.<br />
2. We then had a bye and then not a bye as the draw was redone at least twice<br />
3. If you lose your match in the last 16 you qualify for Crockfords Plate Final; an 8 team event with an identical format to the main event. The number of teams in the last 4 years 6,7,5,7. 7 is awful as it means a 2hr+ sit out. As a bonus teams qualifying for either final pay an additional £105 to go with the £96 already paid<br />
4. In the early stages of a round robin of four teams we were asked whether we preferred to play online of F2F. Two years ago we answered F2F only to have one team withdraw, another to claim they meant to enter an online group and the third to say that F2F meant either at home or within 20 miles of home!<br />
5. We played a seeded team in the last 32 and beat them only to get another seeded team in the next round. We weren't the only ones. Upon enquiry this was, allegedly,  because of the need to balance those who wanted to play F2F and online but as the KO rounds are F2F by default this did not ring true.<br />
6. This year after the round robin we were drawn in the last 32 against a team we had played in the round robin stage. Upon enquiry as to whether this was correct the event was redrawn so presumably the answer was "no"</p>

<p>Bad things happen but the number of times this is the case suggest to me that not enough attention is given to getting it right by the Competitions Department.</p>
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        <title>Individual event at YCBC and NGS.</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1763/individual-event-at-ycbc-and-ngs</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>panja</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>There is an individual tournament in YCBC tomorrow (22nd June). I am wondering if it gets counted in NGS system. I played it last year. In the NGS record, neither the SOpp is reported, nor a change in my NGS after the event. Thanks in advance.</p>

<p>--panja</p>
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        <title>EBU ACOL daylongs</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1752/ebu-acol-daylongs</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>panja</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Last week I played a few EBU daylongs and also played the Team event at Reading. In the results, I see the SOpp of the Reading event mentioned as 59.73 whereas a typical NGS strength of the ACOL daylong event is between 49 and 51. The two metrics seem to be different, however, the SOpp of the ACOL daylong is not mentioned in the results. The BBO robots are periodically tested and are likely to have SOpp around 60. It would be good if a good performance is included in the NGS consideration.</p>

<p>Inclusion in NGS would go a long way towards improving the risk-reward ratio of these events.</p>
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        <title>Robots in EBU Tournaments</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1750/robots-in-ebu-tournaments</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Joeesk</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[I think, playing with robots against pairs without robots gives a very unfair advantage to the player playing with a robot.<br /> You know what exactly your partner’s bid means and your partner also knows exactly what you mean. No bidfing misunderstanding.]]>
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        <title>Why are Overseas tournaments Green Pointed?</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1436/why-are-overseas-tournaments-green-pointed</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 20:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Wwizzardd</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Unjustified because of low attendances, and the effective exclusion of large numbers of EBU members on the grounds of cost.</p>
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        <title>Sim Pairs and NGS</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1586/sim-pairs-and-ngs</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 12:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>AndyF</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully a good place to post and that this has not been asked before.</p>

<p>would it not be better that the result taken for NGS purposes was from the national result rather than the club result in a sim pairs ?</p>
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        <title>Corwen qualifiers</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1514/corwen-qualifiers</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>JamesC</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was just discussing the rules for qualifying pairs for the Corwen earlier today and wondered if people had any thoughts about this competition. The Yorkshire Pairs is coming up this weekend and, while it admittedly hasn't been particularly well advertised it's been struggling to attract as many pairs as in previous years. Last year we had 5 qualifying spots out of 17 pairs and that didn't seem great to me, with the 50% rule we might even be struggling to fill our quota this year. The single event qualifier certainly doesn't seem to be working very well for Yorkshire at the moment, although numbers for the Corwen seem to be holding up. I had a couple of questions I'd welcome any thoughts on;</p>

<p>1) Does anyone know if any other counties are having similar issues around their qualifiers? It might be the size of Yorkshire and the number of qualifiers isn't helping.</p>

<p>2) Is it possible for counties to tweak the qualification method at all, they seem to be set down in the Corwen terms &amp; conditions? Has there been any discussion about the same, which probably isn't a priority?</p>
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        <title>2022 Lambourne Jersey Festival of Bridge</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1224/2022-lambourne-jersey-festival-of-bridge</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Jerseybean</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Festival will go ahead Face to Face this year from Tuesday 3 May until Sunday 8 May. Full details are on the EBU website.</p>
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        <title>Second EBU Daylong on BBO</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1204/second-ebu-daylong-on-bbo</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 10:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Roman79</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Are there any plans to launch second EBU Daylong on BBO? Perhaps the second BBO daylong could contribute to NGS?</p>
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        <title>New teams entry form for Lockdown League for Season 15</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1205/new-teams-entry-form-for-lockdown-league-for-season-15</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 10:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Roman79</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Apologies in advance if I missed it... Could you share new teams entry form URL please?<br />
Thank you!</p>
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        <title>Tournament Stratification</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1203/tournament-stratification</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2022 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>495670</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I just wanted to add a quick request that players' strats are listed alongside the overall results, which would help those playing work out how they ranked within their stratification. I'm not sure how easy this is to do outside of EBUScore, although I note that the relevant masterpoints have been added to those eligible.</p>

<p>Secondly, and the main purpose of this discussion, is whether a change to the stratification system is needed. At the Year End Congress, the number of 'B'/'C' strat pairs and teams was very small relative to the size of the field. This in part reflects the rather unique circumstances of the event this year with it both being online but the first time in a while that families have been able to meet in person. However, it also reflects the success of the 'Jack High' and improver events that now attract players that might previously have filled some of those 'B' and 'C' strats.</p>

<p>Currently, all players who have been in congress bridge for a while (i.e. high masterpoint rank) or are relatively strong (Ace and above) are automatically placed in 'A' strat, which accounted for the vast majority of players at this congress (as you would expect for a national event in any other sport I suppose).</p>

<p>I am very much in favour of stratification and, if publicised in the right way, hopefully it gives the lower NGS players a target or a more useful comparison. However, it would be interesting to see how the 'A'/'B'/'C' ratio would differ if e.g. using just NGS (Ace+, King+, Queen-; or perhaps AD+, AC+, King-), using the average of pairs' NGSs instead of the higher of them etc. There won't be a perfect solution and it will always be contentious, but trying to have an equal split might be beneficial.</p>
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        <title>EBU Calendar / Venue Consultation</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1176/ebu-calendar-venue-consultation</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 12:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>495670</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Moving on from my ramblings of the previous thread, may I suggest a simple consultation to be sent to EBU members (probably those who have played in a congress in the last 5ish years). A separate consultation to those who haven't has been launched many times in the past I know with mixed success, but I don't think that's the priority right now - clubs are best positioned to ensure that they return to the game which is the main priority.</p>

<p>It would be a straight-forward list of congresses (potentially KOs / lockdown league too), with</p>

<ul><li>I've previously played in this</li>
<li>I would / wouldn't play in this in future if it was f2f</li>
<li>I would / wouldn't play in this in future if it was online</li>
<li>I would / wouldn't play in this in future if it was hybrid (hybrid events, along with Sims to an extent, may be criticised if the SoF differs too much across sections)</li>
<li>Given current venue, would you prefer f2f or online (if you've said you'd be willing to participate in either) - The fact that players are willing to play online doesn't mean that they wouldn't prefer f2f, and of course vice versa</li>
<li>Any other suggestions</li>
</ul><p>This sort of process isn't entirely about changes seen by the pandemic, as there were already signs pre-pandemic that some of the focuses were in the wrong place.</p>

<p>(I start rambling again here... obviously just my opinion:)</p>

<p>As it stands, the only 2021 EBU events in person will have been the Premier League and trials, which are designed for the elite and attract a hefty admission fee as a result, along with Eastbourne which on its own can't be viewed as "member caution" (lack of accommodation and notice due to lockdown changes and the dilution of all mid-week events through separate sections elsewhere, let alone the already evident decline in attendance for reasons discussed elsewhere).</p>

<p>In my mind, we need to use the next 6 months, and in particular the YE Congress and the Easter Congress, experimentally. The YE Congress will be online and that will give some indication of likely online turnouts in future (although there may be some bias either through some not attending out of principle, or some attending knowing that future congresses will be in person; It's hard to say). The Easter Congress must then be entirely in person, and consider that turnout on its merit. A hybrid event may, in the short-run, turn out to be more profitable, but that's not the objective here, since f2f congresses come to life when we absolutely maximise the turnout; Having half a hall of people and half the people online leads to the feeling of playing in one lower-tier event that happens to be at the same time as another.</p>
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        <title>Autum Congress</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1173/autum-congress</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2021 17:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>18863</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>It is a shame that the Autumn Congress is to be run online rather than face to face. I undestand that economically low numbers must make it difficult to plan such events but wonder if the hotel might have considered a conference room rental rate proportionate to the number of players? Although I suppose other costs, directors etc, had to be taken into account. I feel guilty that I never registered in advance - perhaps it is time to strongly encourage pre-entries. i would have liked to play f2f at xmas; perhaps a smaller venue, such as YC, might work?</p>
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        <title>RealBridge</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1022/realbridge</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>gordonrainsford</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>We will be running the Autumn Congress online on RealBridge, a new platform with the unique feature of having integrated video and audio, so that you can see and hear your partner and opponents, just as in face-to-face bridge.</p>

<p>In the lead up to this we are running a number of <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ebu.co.uk/node/3912" title="short, free trial games">short, free trial games</a>.</p>

<p>This thread is to give an opportunity to those who have experienced it to give their feedback.</p>
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        <title>The Lambourne Jersey Festival of Bridge 24 April to 2 May</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1114/the-lambourne-jersey-festival-of-bridge-24-april-to-2-may</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 16:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Jerseybean</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Lambourne Jersey Festival of Bridge is to take place on RealBridge this year in a slightly shortened format.<br />
Further details are on the EBU website and the CICBA website.</p>

<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bridgewebs.com/cicba/" title="https://bridgewebs.com/cicba/">https://bridgewebs.com/cicba/</a></p>

<p>Briefly the Festival comprises:-<br />
Sat 24 &amp; Sun 25 12 x 8 Board Swiss Pairs <br />
Mon 26 &amp; Tue 27 Multiple Teams Qualifier and final<br />
Wed 28 Championship (open) Pairs<br />
Thu 29 Mixed Pairs<br />
Fri 30 Senior Pairs<br />
Sat 1 &amp; Sun 2 9 x 8 Board Swiss Teams</p>

<p>We look forward to welcoming you in a virtual Jersey.</p>
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        <title>EBU Daylong on BBO  awards Master Points but does not contribute to NGS</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1110/ebu-daylong-on-bbo-awards-master-points-but-does-not-contribute-to-ngs</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2021 20:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>501172</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was just wondering why this is the case please?</p>
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        <title>Lack of Sections</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/1072/lack-of-sections</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2021 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Am4Fun</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Please explain why in a 48+ table online tournament there is only one section rather than multiple sections.</p>
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        <title>Online Congress</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/929/online-congress</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 14:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>495670</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Obviously this isn't a topic that people necessarily want repeated as the hope remains to get EBU events back to face-to-face whenever possible, but in the interim with more players getting involved in online clubs and the EBU seeing a 100-table 12-board session earlier this week it may be worth thinking about what events the EBU can run (or endorse at county-level) that are closer in format to the normal EBU congresses.</p>

<p>BBO now offers howell options for TDs who ask, but more importantly you can set a break between rounds if you want so that you could run 2-session events. The possibility of running swiss pairs events with 6 rounds or similar, with a break in the middle, is therefore distinctly more possible than it was and would I'm sure have the demand. We are very aware of the need to protect the EBU given its lower revenue, so offering this sort of event may at least keep players involved in EBU events during this time. Zoom seminars (only for those enrolled in the event) would potentially add to the face-to-face element that so many players are missing, and could be preceded by an open pairs or succeeded by a Speedball as you might have in a congress. The BBO server issues now seem to have been ironed out and the BBO costs would hopefully be lower, or at least not dissimilar, to a normal congress (understandably, the EBU would have to charge a lower fee to normal congresses to attract demand though).</p>

<p>Swiss teams will take longer to work out the logistics as BBO does not offer that as a feature in itself, but the teams league seems to still be gaining interest following the fee introduction.</p>

<p>If longer-round events are feasible, integrating Zoom to introduce a face-to-face aspect becomes more achievable. But having to set up a new meeting every round is still a bit of a barrier there.</p>

<p>I'm sure these suggestions are being made behind the scenes, with more counties running their own fortnightly pairs events and more virtual clubs appearing, but I'm yet to see any longer-format events (excluding perhaps the YC which has longer Howells than most on a Saturday) which might be of interest to some, if not many. I suppose the benefit of online games is that less notice is needed before starting up an event like this, so something perhaps to introduce on a rainy day. :)</p>
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        <title>Bridge abroad</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/928/bridge-abroad</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2020 11:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>stayman</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Since most of the rest of Europe and the US are now coming out of lockdown with restaurants and bars reopening, does anyone know if any countries have reopened bridge clubs?<br />
If so is there anything they have learnt that could prove useful for us?</p>
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        <title>Overseas congress</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/676/overseas-congress</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 18:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Clubless</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bridge Overseas run two overseas events a year on behalf of the EBU. Booking can only be made through Bridge Overseas. These events are very enjoyable but numbers have been dropping in recent years. Cost - which clearly are a  factor  - seem to be overly high? For instance the Feb 2020 event at the Hotel Quirinale in Rome Bridge Overseas are charging £699 pp for the 7 nights B&amp;B. On the internet the same deal is currently  being offered at £483 for two people ! That is over a £900 difference for a couple ... a pretty steep charge for a couple of airport transfers and use of the playing area. Where one of the couple is a non bridge player (surely to be encouraged) the differential is even more extreme. You would have hoped that booking a significant number of rooms out of season would enable a decent discount. Instead one of the parties seems to be making a large profit.<br />
Could the competitions team please review the costings of these overseas congresses ... including allowing the option for attendees to book their own accommodation directly.</p>
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        <title>Masters Pairs Sunday 1 March 2020</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/882/masters-pairs-sunday-1-march-2020</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 08:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>16248</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Can anyone explain how and when Master Points, Green Points and NGS will be done, please? <br /> The website talks of stratification but doesn't explain much more.]]>
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        <title>Wondered what the current thinking was on this - especially Eastbourne 2020</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/805/wondered-what-the-current-thinking-was-on-this-especially-eastbourne-2020</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I just wondered what the outlook was for there being a whole 10 days in Eastbourne 2020?<br />
I normally have accommodation booked by now for the whole period and am holding back in case of radical change...<br />
No problem if it's still 'work in progress' as I'm glad the EBU are taking time to get it right</p>
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        <title>National Handicap Pairs?</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/677/national-handicap-pairs</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 13:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>gordonrainsford</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>One suggestion we have had is for there to be EBU events handicapped by NGS. Putting this together with the popularity of our Masters Pairs last year being run in clubs and by clubs, I wonder if we should run a National Handicap Pairs on the same basis.</p>

<p>The way I imagine it, clubs all over the country would run and promote the event, primarily for their own members but also allowing others to join in. It would be scored across the country, but each pairs' score would be reduced by the average of their NGS grades (we'd add on a constant to everyone's scores so that they are in the familiar range with an average of 50%). Master points and prizes would be awarded based only on the handicapped national result, and we could have a trophy for the overall winners. Obviously anyone playing in it would need to have a public NGS, at least for the period over which the event is played.</p>

<p>My questions are:</p>

<ul><li>If you are a club player who doesn't regularly play in EBU events, would this appeal to you?</li>
<li>If you help run a club, would you be interested in running such an event for your members?</li>
<li>Do you think such an event should be a single session, a double sesssion, or something in between?</li>
<li>Do you think this would be best on a Sunday (which is when we run our other national one-day multi-venue events), or some other day of the week?</li>
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        <title>Green Points</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/711/green-points</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 11:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>420946</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please explain to me how green points are awarded. I use Scorebridge and I want to upload a green pointed event. The system asks me for numeric values for Top award &lt;10; Lowest award 0.1 to 1.0. Can't find anyone who knows what that means! Please help !  Nick</p>
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        <title>Crowded calendar, limited events and seniors competitions</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/635/crowded-calendar-limited-events-and-seniors-competitions</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>gordonrainsford</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The EBU competitions calendar is crowded, but unless any events stop contributing to the overall budget, there seems no basis for discontinuing them. They might however be changed in format to try to make them more popular. Suggestions that have been received aside from those made at the meeting include:</p>

<ul><li>A mixed pairs/teams congress</li>
<li>An expansion of the Jack High concept to have higher or lower limits, such as King High or Seven High</li>
</ul><p>When it comes to Seniors congresses, we have three that are close to each other in the summer and a further one in the autumn.</p>

<p>Summer Seniors at the start of July in Eastbourne.<br />
Seniors Congress in the Summer Meeting at the start of August in Eastbourne.<br />
Seniors events at the Scarborough Congress at the end of July.<br />
Summer Seniors at the start of November in Daventry.</p>

<p>Clearly we should reschedule the summer ones in some way. We could:</p>

<ul><li>Amalgamate the two Eastbourne Seniors congresses so that we just have the one that is part of the Summer Meeting. This would have obvious cost benefits as well as revitalising the mid-week schedule. I intend to consult the players from those events to see whether they think this is a good idea.</li>
<li>Alternatively we could reschedule the standalone Eastbourne Seniors to a different time of year.</li>
<li>We could try to move the Scarborough Seniors to a different time of year, though it was introduced fairly recently in response to specific requests for seniors events in the North.</li>
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        <title>Eastbourne vs Brighton</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/639/eastbourne-vs-brighton</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>gordonrainsford</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>A lot of passionate speakers talked of the advantages of Brighton, in particular the vibrant atmosphere and exciting nightlife. The counter argument was made that Eastbourne is cheaper, parking and driving easier and the atmosphere more suited to a different group of our members.</p>

<p>What was not pointed out (I think) was that the Summer Meeting at Brighton had been in decline for a number of years and was not sustainable at the Metropole, we had looked for other venues there but found nothing suitable that was affordable, and so we had the choice of relocating or discontinuing the event. At that time we did an extensive survey of those who had formerly played at Brighton but then stopped, to find out the reasons for this and found the following reasons repeatedly cited:</p>

<ul><li>Hotels and restaurants too expensive</li>
<li>Parking and driving difficult</li>
<li>Unpleasant atmosphere on the seafront at the end of evening sessions</li>
</ul><p>One further request that was made was that even if the Summer Meeting could not return there, perhaps we could consider holding another event there instead. This is now being considered.</p>
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        <title>My Eastbourne proposal</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/698/my-eastbourne-proposal</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2019 22:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>mickyb</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Given the complaints about lack of activity, I'll add this to the discussion. Some of the ideas will look familiar to those who have read my posts in other threads.</p>

<p>I think the way forward for Eastbourne is -</p>

<ul><li>No Seniors Congress running alongside.</li>
<li>Midweek events lasting a day or two, not single-session stuff.</li>
<li>Pairs events at the start of the week, Teams events at the end of the week. That way, it's very easy for a pair to decide to stay for the event after the Harold Poster, or for a team to decide to turn up for the event before the Four Stars.</li>
</ul><p>Something like this:</p>

<p><strong>First Weekend</strong> -  Harold Poster</p>

<p><strong>Sunday evening+Monday</strong> - Three-session IMP pairs with qualifier/semi-final/final (all-play-all). Monday evening consolation final could be IMPs with overtricks not counting, ~6 minutes per board.</p>

<p><strong>Tuesday</strong> - Barometered pairs, perhaps.</p>

<p><strong>Wednesday-Friday afternoon</strong> - A major teams event (hopefully).</p>

<ul><li>Day 1 = six groups, seeded, you play a round-robin within your group. Top two qualify from each group.</li>
<li>Day 2 = Qualifiers play two knockout matches, playing down to three remaining teams. Meanwhile, the non-qualifiers play a swiss; this serves both as a consolation event, and, for the leader at the appropriate point, a way into the semi-finals of the main event. The day finishes with the semi-finals and the conclusion of the consolation swiss.</li>
<li>Day 3 = Final of the teams (32 boards). Non-qualifiers, and new arrivals, play a BAM.</li>
</ul><p><strong>Second Weekend</strong> - Four Stars.</p>

<p>In theory I'd like to find room for a Patton-scored Swiss Teams in there somewhere, but I think it would be better to try this out elsewhere first.</p>

<p>Thoughts?</p>
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        <title>Timings for Eastbourne</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/631/timings-for-eastbourne</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>gordonrainsford</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The following schedule was proposed for next year.</p>

<pre spellcheck="false" tabindex="0">Proposed times for Eastbourne Summer Meeting 2020
Each weekend:
Friday      7:00pm – 10:30pm    Swiss Pairs/Teams, session 1 (3 matches)
                No staggered start
                11:00pm     Late-night Speedball Pairs 
Saturday    10:00am     Discuss it with an expert (?)
                11:00am – 2:15pm    Swiss Pairs/Teams, session 2 (3 matches) 
                3:15pm  –  7:45pm   Swiss Pairs/Teams, session 3 (4 matches)
                10:00pm             Speedball Teams (first weekend)
Sunday      10:00am     Discuss it with an expert
                11:00am – 7:10pm    Four* Teams final (second weekend, top 16 teams)
                11:00am – 3:30pm    Swiss Pairs/Teams, session 4 (4 matches) 
                7:00pm              Open Pairs and Open Teams (first Sunday)

Midweek evening events to start at 7:00pm, no early bird sessions.
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<p>Of those who expressed a view on a feedback form, nearly 80% were in favour of this change.</p>
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        <title>Systems restrictions and strength of fields</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/637/systems-restrictions-and-strength-of-fields</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>gordonrainsford</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>One member felt that it would be an improvement to limit the permitted systems.</p>

<p>Another made the point that as our events have become smaller, so too have they become stronger. He said that whereas he would in the past have expected to come in the middle of the field, nowadays that is much harder to achieve. The term "cannon fodder" was used by more than one person from the floor.</p>
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        <title>What do people want from an EBU Tournament?</title>
        <link>https://forums.ebu.co.uk/discussion/663/what-do-people-want-from-an-ebu-tournament</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2019 09:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I've started this because several posts have alluded to asking those that don't attend what would make an event sufficiently attractive for them to support it. Perhaps the EBU could email people saying please tell us what could we provide at our tournaments that would make them so attractive that you would support them?</p>
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